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1st XI Skipper

Cricket + Practice = Runs + Wickets!

Guys

With 8 games to go we are looking at one of our most disappointing seasons throughout the club. The 3rd XI are 3rd from bottom, the 2nds 5th from bottom (however they have performed well this season for most parts and find themselves in a tight league) and the 1st XI are 3rd from bottom. Many of us are not in the best of form, especially after many games being called off, I am writing this to encourage you all to get down to practice...either on Wednesday nets or any other time you can. We still have a chance to turn this season round and for us all to produce something we can celebrate at the end of season do. Now is the chance for all over you to put in the performances to win player of the year awards, most improved etc. but most importantly to put in the performances TO KEEP US IN THE DIVISIONS WE ARE IN!

COME ON GUYS WE ARE H+D C.C. LETS GET OUT THERE AND SHOW THE OPPOSITION HOW DAMN GOOD WE REALLY ARE! BUT TO DO THIS WE NEED TO PRACTICE....AND WANT TO PRACTICE...AND WANT TO PERFORM AND WANT TO WIN...AND I AM SURE YOU ALL WANT THAT!
inzie

gd shout davis....lets at least be in div 5 for nxt yr
samtruss1986

come on fellas!! lets get this season up and running!! we need thes wins and we dont deserve relegation!! so lets not scrape it this year and work hard for your captain!! lets put the hours in and get the results out and what we deserve!!

back in 11 days!! 1st game in 12 and i rele cant say how much i have missed it and how up for these games i am!!

see all soon
Sammy Ginger Bolloc_s

Sam, unfortunatley we do deserve to be relegated because quite simply we haven't been good enough and we are not good enough, as i stated at the start of the season. People chose to believe that the club was going to be in for another successful season and didn't want to face upto the problems in the club.

That attitude of "we don't deserve to be relegated" is absolute bolloc_s. The world owes noone nothing my friend

Until people in the club realise that we haven't got the quality in the club and people realise that they aren't actually as good as what they think they are, then perhaps the club can find ways to improve. until then get used to playing village cricket with all the other pikey cu__s
Paulo

As the best player we have....

What are your propsoals to help us improve as a club ?

A lot "We are not very good" comments being thrown around by everyone, but not many suggestions apart from mine and Davis professional coaching idea to help us improve.

Practice against the better players we have would certainly help.

OK I appreciate people work shifts and cant always attend, but maybe if the 'so called better players turn up now and again its a start.....
Sammy Ginger Bolloc_s

A change off attitude for starters. Now i'm all for people backing themselves, but certain players talk like they have played test cricket, but the facts are, the club hasn't played a decent standard of cricket for donkey years. All this talk of, we have plenty of players that can div 5, can score runs, take wickets and win cricket matches is nonsense. We haven't.

I agree with the pro coach, but that costs money. We have currently people coaching already, but are they coaching the right things? As i've mentioned before, Damo doesn't even know how to hold the ball properly when he's bowling, so my guess is, whoever is coaching him hasn't got the foggiest himself. So we get these "coached" youngsters supposedly ready for senior teams and in truth there far from it. Now you don't need to be a pro coach or a coach to show someone how to hold a cricket ball when bowling.

As for practice, needs structure. You get people turning up there as if its a drop in centre. They bowl a few balls (not how they bowl in a game) have a chat, ball a few more pies then fuc_ off home. Now i'm not gonna rush home from work and come to the nets for that. It's certainly not going to my game any good. I'm not the club captain, so it's not my job to structure the training. Having been club captain i know how hard it is to get people down there.

If you don't get the commitment, nothing will work
1st XI Skipper

ok I hate posting argumentative e-mails but sorry..

How am I meant to be at training when I dont get home till 8pm from work....at which point everyone has gone home. This was something I stated when I was appointed as captain.....a position I was appointed to because no other bugger would do it!

If the club captain cannot be there it is up to the coaches and other senior players to structure the training sessions themselves...I am sorry are you incapable as an adult to think for yourself and structure training sessions to how you want it.

As a club captain I have on numerous occassions tried to encourage practice and have practiced myself with others when avaialable and have given advice when I can. Have other senior memebrs....have they f+++ (warren/moorsy excluded)

My post was to encourage practice, and to instill a motion that unless we do we have a real chance of getting relegated.

In the end you are all ok because if we go down it falls on me as the captain and dont worry if we do I will take the flak.....but I will only take it from people who have tried their socks off like me to keep us up.
Paulo

Pottsy, Sean Fox and Dan Goff... 1st team players who turn up for nets.... need I say more.

I maybe untalented but at least I make the most of my abilities reflected in my scores this year and ........
I WILL ALWAYS WANT TO PLAY 1ST TEAM CRICKET WHETHER SELECTED OR NOT, THAT SHOULD EVERYONES GOAL WHO PLAYS FOR THE CLUB....

I am committed always have been, maybe more poeple should have my attitude.....
Sammy Ginger Bolloc_s

Incapable as an adult to think for myself, Bloody cheek!!

As i stated Lee, people don't go down there to practice, they go for a doss, a chat and meet their mates who don't even play cricket.

You really believe that practice is going to save us from relegation? Bolloc_s will it!!!!

Maybe signing up a bowler or two that doesn't bowl half trackers on a green top might. No amount of practice is going to stop JK from doing that. The boy thinks he's lightening quick and if the truth be known he's no more than dibbley dobbler who chucks it down legside 5 times out of six.

This my point, ATTITUDE!!!! until he realises what he can actually do, then he is not going to get any better and that goes for a number of players.
You get some players who one week is a keeper, next week a batsmen and so on. It's the same with the bowlers, one week a spinner the next week seamer.

The reality of it all, we are not good enough!!!
Paulo

Where do you sign these players from then ?
1st XI Skipper

if people want to practice but think wednesday nights are rubbish then phone people and create your own net......this is my point....

if we spent more time as a club practicising than we do moaning, belittling etc we would be awesome!

Jacko you mentioned commitment before......you available saturday then.

To Everyone.....if you are not part of the solution....you are part of the problem.....be part of the solution......solution = winning
Paulo

Seriously, do you believe Jacko that if dont practice you will be a better player(s) than if you do ?

It might not save you from relegation, but surely it will give you a better chance ?

I cant be wrong there.
stretch16

If practise doesnt help results why do the professionals do it day in day out?
samtruss1986

well when i have been on leave etc i have never had problem in getting into the club getting the machine out an using it just me nd danny, or me and my brother with someone to open up!!
so its not as if the club is locked and wed nights is the only night tht it can be done!! look at other clubs they even warm up and we used to but now we dont even do that!!
pratice is key and granted that not everyone can get to certain times or days but surly a hour a week even if its sat morning would improve things??
Sammy Ginger Bolloc_s

No! Poke your cricket team up your arse... Id rather sit in the clubhouse get pissed and smoke some cigarettes. Surprised

See, i can think for myself.

You have just done one of the very things a captain, who's side is sinking faster than the Titanic and is as low as snakes belly should never do, alienate the very people who could get you out of the *+#< you got yourself into.

Good luck for the rest of the season, me thinks you're going to need it.
samtruss1986

better talk to smiffy about those cigarettes!! he seems to have different ideas for smoking inside the club Very Happy
stretch16

trusler how many games are you going to be home for
samtruss1986

young tommy, trussler is spelt with two "s" lol, well im home for a warm up game sun 15th then a game on each sat and sun the weekend after and thats it!! 3 games!! dependand on weather aswell
Sammy Ginger Bolloc_s

Hey Sam! If you're going to be critical of peoples spelling, check your own out. What the fuc_ does dependand mean???????
1st XI Skipper

I was about to write my thoughts on the forum but this is not the place to air my "dirty laundry"

You have made you feelings all to well known Mr Jackson. And for a man who can think for himself you have done what no true H+D player would do in this thread

1) belittle a captain
2) belittle his team mates
3) quit a team near relegation when ALL hands are needed

Jacko you cant win games for us single handedly.....hence why we have won 25% of the games you have played....we have won as many games when you have played than when you havent.

For a man I respected highly and who I wanted to captain this year and next....you have completely disillusioned me.

Not that you would give 2 sh1ts

You are a loss........no doubt.......but the show must go on.

As a mark of respect I want to say thanks for the help you have given me it was appreciated......but belittling people including me isnt
stretch16

jacko eva 4t of bin english teacher as u r such a gd speller. y cnt u play the 1st saturday ur here trussler
Paulo

Unbelievable....
stretch16

if there is a number 3 spot required for saturday im available for selection skip lol
Sammy Ginger Bolloc_s

A bit of straight talking is what is needed. All this ponsing about, thinking we are something we're not has to stop. It does noone no good.

Take sam trusslers comment, don't deserve to be relegated. Has he seen any of the games, are sky broadcasting our games to whereever it is he is?
Sammy Ginger Bolloc_s

Unbielavable!!!

I'll tell you what is unbelievable. The fact that all this ponsing about has been allowed to go on for as long as it has. Many seasons.

If people can't see what is wrong with our cricket, then i suggest they take up ludo.

A bit of straight talking is whats needed, because there is plenty of it going on behind peoples backs. Get everything out in the open.

People know exactly where they stand.
Sammy Ginger Bolloc_s

That spelling mistake was just for you Tommy
stretch16

the embarrassing thing is i didnt notice it until u sed lol
KINGSTON

Sammy Ginger Bolloc_s wrote:
Incapable as an adult to think for myself, Bloody cheek!!

As i stated Lee, people don't go down there to practice, they go for a doss, a chat and meet their mates who don't even play cricket.

You really believe that practice is going to save us from relegation? Bolloc_s will it!!!!

Maybe signing up a bowler or two that doesn't bowl half trackers on a green top might. No amount of practice is going to stop JK from doing that. The boy thinks he's lightening quick and if the truth be known he's no more than dibbley dobbler who chucks it down legside 5 times out of six.

This my point, ATTITUDE!!!! until he realises what he can actually do, then he is not going to get any better and that goes for a number of players.
You get some players who one week is a keeper, next week a batsmen and so on. It's the same with the bowlers, one week a spinner the next week seamer.

The reality of it all, we are not good enough!!!



You talk about attitude well lucky everyone hasnt got the same negativie attitude as you. how is saying we are all rubbish and we deserve to get religated help any1?? I might not go to nets due to work and other things, it doesnt matter how few people go any practise is better than no practise no matter how structured and i am gonna try get down 4 a few. I do not think I am lightning quick and some games i have bowled bad but if you actually played more you would see tht i have bowled well and took wickets too. I know i need to improve and i know i will. I dont see you scoring tons every time you play so maybe you should consentrate on your own game instead of taking a pop at others. I turn up 4 every game and i give it 100% everytime. unlike you im not just gonna slag everyone off and say we are all crap as we are not, all it takes is a win and it will lift the team and we will start playing well its confidence we need, not attitude and comments that you have shown on this thread. If you want to give up and not play anymore than fine at least i know the rest of the team will be there week after week trying to win.
Sammy Ginger Bolloc_s

Don't we deserve to get relegated then? you get what you deserve

Winning cricket matches stops you from getting relegated, if lose them, then you deserve to be relegated. Thats logic.

So being logical, at present the club is losing cricket matches hand over fist, so on that basis we deserve to be relegated.

That's not me saying we deserve to be relegated, it's fact!
Paulo

After 18 games ...

Not after 10.....

Good to see your mature enough to say poke ya team when they need you most.....

Awesome.....

You really need to have a rethink on what you say about poeple, I know for a fact you wouldnt say what you have been about certain others in our club.....
stretch16

i think jk had some gd point there not every1 has performed every game so how could you single him out jacko thats all. nother thing jacko look at other sports west ham were almost certain to go down and they started winning y cant we do that(cos we havent got tevez mayb)
KINGSTON

the point of playing a season is to see who is the best and worst over the WHOLE season and that is why teams dont get promoted and religated till the END of the season so no at this point in time i do not think we deserve anything not with 8 games to go. if we finish bottom at the END of the season then we obviously DESERVED to grt religated
Sammy Ginger Bolloc_s

Certain others, explain? If certain others had been around then perhaps i wouldn't of needed to of said these things, they would of already been said.

So my comments have upset a few people, but i'll tell you what, at least i've made my feelings known, unlike quite a few others.

People should wake up and smell the roses.
Paulo

You totally contradict yourself all the time.....

What do you expect to get out of this debate ?

9 new players to play alongside you and Semple ?

It aint going to happen, we have make do with what we have, if thats not good enough then its not good enough.
But everyone needs to do better than they are.

The point to start with was how do we improve ?

Not practising ?
No coaching ?
No Structure ?
Calling everyone else sh1t ....

What good are home truths coming from you ?
Think most people have lost a lot of respect they had for you with all your snidey underhand, belittling comments.
KINGSTON

Hmm but you havent made any "comments"( not any worth worring about anyway) all you have done is just moaned and tell everyone how rubbish they are and that we should all give up. it must be a grey world living in your world if all your thought processes are all so negative. If you really want to help the team and the club why dont you do what your ment to do so well and score runs and perform on the field. thats how you lift a team by performing which will give encouragement and confidence to others. dont worry I dont think your so called "comments" have upset any1 not me anyway we all big boys here( arent we)??? hmm
Sammy Ginger Bolloc_s

What do i expect to get out of this debate, not much really! Things will just carry on as they have been.

Why would i want nine new players to play alongside me and colin? Nine new players is not the answer, just a change off attitude, as i said in a previous post. Until that happens, close the door, turn the lights off and go home...

At least those snidey, underhand comments ( as you put it) are not behind peoples backs.

I'll tell you what, we are light years behind other clubs in terms of youth and how the cricketing side of things are run, but people don't want to be told.
KINGSTON

You want a change of attitude, but what kind of attitude have you shown here? not a very good one i can tell you. surley you should be trying to encourage people and giving positive advise and support?? least browney try's to get people to practice and do better. for someone that seems so conserned you aint exactly shown up for many games this season have you?
1st XI Skipper

everytime I try to change it and try something different you call it a rubbish idea!

face it Lee......unless its done your way 9 times out of 10 its wrong.

we are light years behind.....we were light years behind 5 years ago...you guys didnt listen to me then cos I wasnt a good player in your eyes......but sometimes the best players dont have the best ideas

your right some attitudes arent great....we obviously have different ideas how to fix....I believe in encouragement..you believe in insults.....fair enough
Paulo

So again, as the best player this club has/had, what can you do to help ?

Or is it a case "I dont have the time" but Im happy to criticise others ?
Cos really its what it seems like.

£20 an hour for a pro coach its not going to break the bank is it.
stretch16

and if we are a cricket club and we have money to spend surely coaching is one of the top priorities has this been spoken about at committee meeting yet?
Sammy Ginger Bolloc_s

Jamie, if you think the attitude of the club is fine and dandy, then we are going stand still. Now notice i have said club, not team.

As for encouraging and advising people, tried that, but again the attitude, i'm too good for advice comes across.

No, your dead right jamie, i haven't played many games this season, have you ever asked yourself why????????

Like i said before, a pro coach is a good idea, but will the committee?? i doubt it.

As for a structure for practice, well we have the coaches, so my view is that, our youngsters, should throughout the summer be given specialised one to one coaching. Batting and bowling. By that, i mean youngsters with real potential. A pro coach should be used only for younger players with poential, but also giving advice and tips to other players.

As for practice for the senior members, well we are not ever going to be in a position to be able to say no practice no play, so you can only hope that you get the committment from the players.

You need a an entire session for fielding, then on a seperate day for batting and bowling, with our coaches in attendance. Watching then advising wher each person is going wrong.

Thats great, but again, it's down to attitude.

Now i'm always willing to offer advice and tips to players, as i have done with most of the 18-21 year olds, but if they don't listen to me i'm not going to bother.

So imy opinion, we should be aiming all our effort and resources towards the juniours with real pontential.
Paulo

Very constructive, I think anyone with a brain would agree with what your saying there....

Why did/do we need all the crap beforehand ?

You obviously care what happens to this club so help it rather than hindering it !!

If the committee cant agree to £20 an hour coaching sessions, then I will pay for an hour personally !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im sure others will also.
Sammy Ginger Bolloc_s

Because, the attitude of the CLUB neeeds to change. People really do believe all is well. You know as well as i do, it's not, far from it.

We've tried all this pussy footing around for so long and nothing changes.
Paulo

I know, but theres a right way of going about things, certainly not slagging off poeple who want to change it and help.

I for one, will help in shape, form or way if asked to get things moving quickly to help improve our club.

There would be nothing I would like more than to be marooned in the 3rd team as I cant get game in the 1s or 2s as the youngsters had taken over.....
1st XI Skipper

Lee

Apologies for insulting you earlier...I admit that was out of line especially from a man who never likes to upset anyone.

I hold up my hands and admit my mistake.

lee
Artois

I don't see the need to insult the Committee about an idea/suggestion that hasn't even been put to them yet.

The cost would not be a stumbling block in any case, as, if minds are cast back to the original posting, those attending the sessions would be asked to make a small contribution to costs of around £2.00. Why would the Committee not agree to it anyway when it's something that will move the club.

Therefore, lets not contunue to create irrelevant arguements for the sake of it and be constructive about it by putting the suggestion forward rather than just talking about it.
Artois

With respect to the original subject in hand, it may not be my place to comment, rightly not being part of the set up, but I look at the bigger picture.

This is not a new problem. A lot of what Jacko says is right about the attitude, effort and commitment of SOME players, not only the younger players though. Also, as with any sport, the league doesn't lie.

However, looking from the outside, such "problems" have been building up for a number of years and have not reared their heads this season alone.

Perhaps we are paying the price for things that did or didn't happen over the last 5-10 years?

Getting nine new players wouldn't neccessarily change things, but it is fair to say that the numerous players we have lost in the last decade just haven't been replaced.

Everything Lee has tried this year has been with the best of intentions and has seldom had a full pool of players to pick from and not always for the right reasons.

Don't get me wrong, I am not suggesting that we appeal to the league with this as an excuse, should we go down, but try and win every remaining game as if the season has only just started. Even if we address what problems we have currently, it may not have the desired effect until next season anyway.
inzie

so glad i dont ave internet access at work or i wudnt have got anythin done but read this all day...........


i dnt wanna cause carnage on here. im writing short hand etc etc so deal with it or dont read it ok.


from an outside view in recent weeks. i do not see a team i see 11 individuals. i see some people who care about the result others who simply dont care if the team wins/loses. people who dont care if they are dropped or not dropped. people who are more interested in coming off the pitch whinging bout others bad performances instead of lookin at their own and thinkin if i held that catch? that batsman wudnt have blasted the bowler ive just slated all over the place. MORE IMPORTANTLY I DO NOT SEE THE SIDES STRONGEST 11 PLAYERS ON ANY OCCASION. How many teams could be potentially 6 first team players short most/every week and field the side we do?!

for those who want names.

The six are:

Myself
James Goff (featured in previous weeks)
Bilton (scored runs most weeks, not exactly 100's but hes one of top scorers most past weeks)
Trussnuts (afghan)
Si garner (unable to be there regularly, kid/family etc)
Jacko (personal commitments etc etc)

im not bad mouthin people for not bein available etc etc as i am one myself. merely stating these r players who would be in the side at every opportunity (or most) that we are without most weeks.

dont wanna cause debates etc etc as im only sayin my thoughts.

shame if u dont play jacko, one of the players i respect etc on the field. as much as we argue fall out n the rest of it shame if u dont play. sayin that forgot what u look like as i havent seen u for so long...................i thought this yr wud be different as every1 probably does every year. but truble is never going to be a "team" wen we dont have the same 11 players to gel together as one.
truss jnr

wel after some long reading

Maybe we have finaly found our standrd of cricket nd ther is still team betr thn us in the league. If we put as much effort in on the field as we do filling in the forum maybe we would be in a betr posistion.

so jacko aftr all of ur comments r u goin 2 ply again this sesson?

the coaching is a great idea bt how much r we going to get. if is gna be like the youths 20kids 1coach ther is going to be no point it needs to be broken dwn intoi small groups of people who cn meet at the same time. also pre pay for the training so they are not going to want to miss it.

jst remember people you are only as good as ur last game team wise and indervisual performances

sorry for the speeling
samtruss1986

well, what a read, there are so many points that are correct, well the idea for a pro coach is a great idea for the colts and i also agree that it should be to a smaller group.

training dont have to be on wednesdays im sure if you want a net to improve or just for something to do there are enough people with keys to access it and the bowling machine so it only takes 2 people.

stu is right with upto 6 players away each week im sure that any team would struggle and find it hard, is that not why we have a second team for back up to the 1st?? im seeing good scores from people in the seconds (brownie, warren, moors) div 6/7 cant be that much different to div 5? so promotion to the 1st and droping people shouldnt be hard,

i agree peoples attitude do need to change in the club because there people that think they are better than they are and think that they own there place in the side where this clearly is not the case,

jacko, i agree that h&dcc have not yet got the sky contract to beam live cricket to afgan, however i belive in people and when i see a side i think well if people play like they should and could, we should have the depth to cover the replacements!

is that not the way of the club tho "pussy footing" around, to many people not to upset??

i agree that the club has lost good players in the last 5-10 years, i can only count for 3 years as i havnt been at the club too long but i have seen good player be driven away, family etc etc
Goffy

this is what i think dont tak it the wrong way people....and there will be spelling mistakes..

Kinger
ur only happy when ur doin somethink ie bowling and batting.......u turn up 15 mins before the game and leave straight away thats good team sprite yes u might work and have a girlfriend but u dont work every staurday jk.

Jacko
ur just jacko no1 will change that if u have a problem with some u tell them what u think. sometimes u can be very critical 2wards some people..but sometimes u need that and other time u dont

Skipper
wat u said about gary and warren was a little harsh they r down that club every sunday morning with the youngster and there r game 2 to 3 times a week other then that i have no problem

in the end we r just missing a few plays in my eyes
sam trussler

rudkin but i know others will disagree with me.....we would get wickets with weather like this......i know his attuide is rubbish but in my eye it just a bad as kingers

i think we also miss the big man aswell stu barwood just coz he could quite easiler go out there and score a ton every week if he puts his mind 2 it.


please people what i have just said dont take it the wrong way espically u davis....in the end we should all support r skipper wat ever happens
inzie

im all for rudkin....
inzie

tall gd bounce and took wickets in div 4, sorry lee, attitude stinks but so do 95% of the clubs haha
Artois

Rudkin incredibly rarely makes himself available, therefore does not get picked.

It is not because of lack of ability. One cannot only play the occasional home game and then expect to walk in the side.
newell15

oh my god its taken me 47 mins 2 read all this lol

in my opinion the youth cricketers arent involved enough for example if we have players not scoring runs or taking wickets why not put the youngsters in and give them a try
inzie

coz they aint gd enuff - in too early can ruin confidence
newell15

i agree but its not going to ruin someones confidence playing at the best standards they can is it?
stretch16

good to see that allams in for both games at weekend and also paul cook for sunday look forward to seeing allam in action if rain holds off
1st XI Skipper

Goffy

In my second post I actually say excluding Wazza and Moorsy because they already do alot of stuff for the younger players!



and sorry I ahve tried to pick Rudkin 3 times this year.....he has made himself unavailable those 3 times...never once has he phoned and made himself available.....so how can I pick him!
Paulo

The club needs to sit down and have a short and long term strategy.

Also they need to get a list of volunteers who are willing to help our youngsters improve and progress.
Without this nothing will change.
We cant go round saying, change this change that unless people are willing/ able to give up their own free time.

As Jacko says indentify the best players and ensure they get the possible coaching available.

Until this happens we have to except what we are !

I would play Rudkin, but then again I would also play Gary Fox for the 2nds....
newell15

good shout browno

and yeah i think gary fox has been treated wrongly i know he brings it on himself but a good all cricketer simple can get runs and can get wickets, so what hes in a mood when we lose if everyone in the club was like that we'd be in div 3 instead of div 5.
Paulo

For the record Im not saying getting in a mood and sulking is exceptable....

We are all here to play for the club, for our own enjoyment.
newell15

paul cook will be in if goffy aint counting wrong lol jokes
Goffy

davis like rudder said 2 me i should ring him 2 c if is aviable not him ring u
inzie

weather lookin good for tomorrow....home win is 4/7

come on lads lets do the biz!
Artois

He wasn't in a mood because we lost, it was because he was removed from the attack and doesn't like tje fact that his younger brother has progressed passed him.

Rudder has never captained a side. If a player is continually asked to play, but declines the offer every time, then it should be down to the player to let the captain know when he is available.

It is not acceptable to say you can play only the occasional home game, and then complain when you are not selected.
Goffy

does james foster ring the chairman of sectors and let them know that he is aviable for england NO!!!!!!!!!!!
Artois

That's because he is always available for England
newell15

ooh kk apologies artois!
1st XI Skipper

Goffy you are a mate but that comment about James Foster is a joke right!

In fact I cant bring myself to respond to it because I am laughing my arse off!!!

erm Foster is a professional player....it is his job and being a pro cricket player means...unless injured...you are available at any time for your country!

Thats like saying the post office must phone you everyday to check you are still turning up for work......and then you saying..nah sorry cant deliver today cos its not in my road!.....reckon they may fire you!

lmao!

Rudkin isnt a pro...well last time I looked he wasnt....and I didnt see you offering to help Rudkin out to pay the subs he owed...unlike me....so he could play....for him to then say he is unavailable everytime I did ask him....I am not phoning him every week and spend any more of my money for him to say I cant.....If he is available he can call me. Other people do it why is he so special he doesnt have to? He is a good player but you are better than him sir....

anyway......if he calls and tells me he wants to play I shall very much consider him...never said I wouldnt.

By the way just tried Monty Panesar again for the 12 week on the trot but he says he is unavailable this weekend cos he is playing for some team called Engerland? Oh well maybe he can play against Achillies next week...although it is an away game lol
inzie

now now, toys and prams come to mind
Artois

Not really Stu, I am behind the skipper on this one
inzie

anti rudkin or jus backing the skipper? haha
1st XI Skipper

Hey Guys

Lets end this thread....it was meant to be a gee-up mail but people...including me .....have turned it into a less than happy thread.

1) Never been Anti-Rudkin......I wanted him to play this year hence forking out cash to get him in earlier!

2) Off the back of this I think the availability board idea should be used more. Goffy as you are aware its hard to be a skipper and chasing people is not nice is it. Why should they have to? We are not pros so we dont have to be available evey week. When we are we should help skippers by saying we are....Simon Garner, Richie Bush, Adam, Stewy have all told me up front when and if they are available most of the time this year.....and this is how it should continue.

3) At a time of the season when we should be behind each other to survive we are at each others throats. So please take a second, think what you want from cricket and each other......and when saturday comes and you go out onto the field look around you and realise not only are you playing for personal gratification BUT ALSO FOR THE 10 OTHER GUYS ON THE FIELD.....IF WE DO THIS WE CAN BEAT ANYONE IN THIS LEAGUE....we proved this at Wivenhoe this year....which was one of the proudest moments of my career to see everyone so happy at winning....can we have that feeling back....

I will always be proud to skipper this team.....but even more so if we play like one

take care all....and well done to the thirds today great win lads!

The Skip
inzie

gd shout.......................cant believe that wivenhoe was the last win...some may say im the catalyst??? haha only kiddin....

davis wat made u think i got runs for the 3s?! i work sundays............................

team is the key word for us/you i think.... the 1s r 11 individuals in my book
Artois

Just backing the Skipper
Goffy

ok pal.......wats the team staurday.................
here about kinger turned up late again then started saying that we could play the game that it aiont that bad we told him that it was off and he went straight away with out say goodbye 2 anyone bit of a cry baby in my eyes jk LOL....make sure u get wicket at the weekend m8 and hope ur in a better mood if sected
Goffy

ok pal.......wats the team staurday.................
here about kinger turned up late again then started saying that we could play the game that it aiont that bad we told him that it was off and he went straight away with out say goodbye 2 anyone bit of a cry baby in my eyes jk LOL....make sure u get wicket at the weekend m8 and hope ur in a better mood if sected
1st XI Skipper

sure team is

Dave Benson Phillips
Spongebob Squarepants
Rick Astley
Smithers
Ryu
Macho Man Randy Savage
She-Ra
My Mum
Ann Widdecombe
Eric the Eel


Oh yeah and Rudkin's in
inzie

this is gettin pathetic. we say bout team spirit etc this childish squablin has to stop gettin on my nerves and i aint even playin every week to see it constantly. christ
newell15

haha barwoods rattled lol
Paulo

We had some team bonding in the club Saturday afternoon, Me, Semps, Warren, Colin Perry, Potts and Andy C ...

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