Overseas Player

inzie · Overseas Player

Yes or No
when you vote leave ur name and ur opinion

inzie

Decent pace bowler who can bat a bit....even if they would be most use away certainly worth having. anyone pacey wud be hard to get away down our place aswell.............

stretch16

Thomas Phillip Rayner Armstrong...Yes ...Wil never happen tho

Paulo

The thing is I could get an overseas player every year Stu, via Keith or Dot But...

The club, I know wont pay for one out of their own pockets.
Where would they stay ?
Who provides them with work ?

An arguement by certain members is that why should I give up my time to pay someone ?
Which I can their point on that.

So I guess as a suggestion, if we feel that it would benefit us (and it doesnt take a genuis to work out it would)

We have 'special fundraisers' for this purpose.

What the club dont realise is that (and I think most people dont) is that it cost me a lot of money & time too have Keith and Dot here for summer in 2002.....
Its a big commitment.

But yes I would love an overseas player every year.

gatty

its not that we dont need 1 its just were not in a postion 2 get 1 for starters nd at this level we dont need 1 we just need 2 work as a team and as the years go by nd we get into top 4 or 3 then we think bout it as it 2 much money. nd as browney said were will he saty nd were will he work.

Sammy Ginger Bolloc_s

No! I don't think an overseas player is the answer. Maybe it is in the short term, if all you want to do is get promoted, but it's not goig to improve the long term future of the club. Tell me, what decent overseas cricketer is going to want to come and play div 5 at harwich?? you'll probably end up with someone who is just over here for the dollars and couldn't give a toss about anything else.

So you get promoted, so you have to keep getting an overseas player in until you get someone who joins/comes up throuh the ranks who is equally good if not better.

I think we'd be silly to consider it!! As browny siad, a lot of hard work goes into getting an overseas player and money for that matter. Money that would be better invested elsewhere.

I really cannot see the sense in an overseas player in div5.

We'll see how stowmarket do next year, if they don't get 1 for next year.

Paulo

Agree I dont think its a sound investment for a Div 5 side...

Would they better our side yes, would they help the youngsters yes...
But as you say its a short term fix to a long term problem.

I have to say it wouldn't be worth the money in our position at the moment.

If you think airfare would be £500 + alone.

We will always have the option in years to come of finding an overseas player easy enough with Keith and Dot being able to get somebody for us no problems.

Thats not to say I wouldn't like an overseas player every year....
But its pros and cons...

truss jnr

i think an overseas player would be good for the club. i understand that there are alot of pros nd cons but if we could get past the serious part of the money and a place to stay then we should go for it.

we have the talent in the club to score runs but we are not taking alot of wickets so a good bowler would be a must. also having a player of thats standed as a coach aswel would be great for the youths and older player in the club to.

inzie

jus annoys me that ppl say we r up agaisnt rubbish players etc slow bowlers. well unless we get ourselves out of this standard we wont eva face decent opposition and i dont think we will get out of this standard without one................sorry!

Artois

Maybe the money would be better spent on a jukebox?

inzie

haha nat agrees haha

newell15

if he could do a bit of teaching im all in i feel its the only way the club will get back to the standars that we were!

samtruss1986

as aaron says pro's and con's to be honest, its not as if the club is flush with cash atm, so an overseas player would be very expensive and commitment from certain players to keep him/them housed,
however, i feel that it would bring a boost to the team and make people spark on certain occasions, it would also give us a extra option to the side if he bats or bowls,
the colts could be trained by him and there for getting experience from not only our coaches but other coaches, but would this be more worth while getting the coach that hopper and the other subject is talking about??????

Paulo

In my opinion its an interesting debate.

Lets look at the actual figures -
£600 Flight
£15 per coaching session
Accommodation per week £35-£50 (unless somebody will put them up for free - I doubt that)
Someone needs to find them a local job

This is for 5 months...

Im definitely not saying they wouldn't benefit our club, but I agree with Jacko on this one in Div 5 its a bit wasteful.

I think that type of money could be better spent on pro coaching for our best young players, and then when we reach a certain level, maybe Div 3 then I would yes get an overseas player.

I would also like more members of the club (or Senior members) offering their own time to help our better players in one on one sessions.
Just pointers, not official techique coaching.

I do also think an overseas player brings a certain something extra for everyone at a cricket club.

Paulo

Stu,

I disagree with you on saying that you cant get out of Div 5 without an overseas player, we are close this season to doing it !!!!
Hahahaha... that was a joke btw !

Anyhow, heres a thought on why we cant get out of Div 5.

"You only get out what you put in"

And if poeple are not prepared to put in the effort to get better, than we certainly could be stagnated for a while.

Goffy

i agree with jacko 100%

Sammy Ginger Bolloc_s

Stuey, if you think getting an overseas player is going to give you automatic promotion, then you are very much deluded my friend.

One player doesn't make a team.

There are far more important things that need adressing before we even think about an overseas player.

I for one would vote against it. I mean, if we have to rely on some aussie or s african who doesn't know or care a jot for our club, then i think we should give up now.

Paulo

I think we are all saying that its something not to be fogotten but at this time not a priority....

cricketguru

Goffy Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:24 pm Post subject:

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i agree with jacko 100%

..........suck up or what!!!!

gatty

look we are good enough i have seen it seconded game of the season away to wivenho we were chasing 240 or sumthing like that and we chased that total down as a team same with the first game we got 250 odd everyone played well and we got them out for 130 or 140 odd my point is there is not enough commitment that team that played the first game have not all played together since and same with the seconded game if we put as much effort on to the field as we do on this we wouldnt be in this league so come on lets get back on track we can do this!!!

inzie

i thought id put a debate etc to try and get thoughts. im not sayin one makes a team, jacko u posted lets c how stowmarket do without their overseas player next yr, dont care how they do but playin a higher standard than us! meanwhile wen ppl dont practise promotion is a no hope! sorry but facts r facts,

clearly no one cares what league we are in or they wud be practising.......or making themselves available instead of slating people who turn up and give 99/100%

we have bowlers who have never ever turned up at nets.........................YER AND TO HEAR PPL SAY, BOWLING IS NOT AN ISSUE! WELL THINK AGAIN.

wen did we last bowl a team all out?

Paulo

April 28th 2007.

Stu your the man to bowl out a side this weekend mate !

inzie

do i or do i not have a point.........take it how u wish

gatty

stu u do ave your point for once lol

Paulo

You do though have smelly feet !

inzie

idiot

Paulo

Now now .......

inzie

fieldin practise went down well on saturday...........the ppl who attended certainly dont need improving im afraid.

Paulo

Are we/you having fielding practice Sat ?

I will come down early if you are as I missed Weds session as I had to shoot off...

Paulo

Stu,

Just in case your stuck for ideas ...

http://www.dreamyfeet.co.uk/sweaty_skin.htm

stretch16

wat the team for saturday thn ??

davis
stu
mark
dan
moorsy
rudkin
brownie
pottsy
jk
rest i dnt no

Paulo

1. D.Goff
2. M.Barwood
3. J.Goff
4. G.Moors
5. S.Barwood
6. L.Davis
7. P.Brown
8. A.Rudkin
9. C.Semple
10.S.Garner
11.D.Potter

Kinga just dropped out... sore little finger.

Your Mum is on Tea Duty tomorrow Tommy - take it she is still OK for that ?

stretch16

yh she knows done most of shopping

inzie

btw i meant to say fieldin weds not saturday haha